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. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched thi
. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to...
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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. >> since 2008 at least 15 states have passed tighter id laws. turns out that one case of voter fraud is being investigated. it is fraud by and for the republican party tonight. they had to fire a consulting firm it paid millions of dollars to after seficials flagged forms as fraudulent. local prosecutors are investigating the matter and say the cases could be turned over to the california department. alleged fraud is the work of just a few bad apples. >> you have been studying this florida case. there is a fame case. he was with me working on the campaign side. what they were accused of in 2004 is sending out register to so the. if you check off register me as a republican. they turn it in. >> if he check democrat? shred it. and an employee told on them. he said they were separating the ballots and democrats were showing up to the polls in 2004 in florida to find out that they were not ready to vote. >> it never happened. the bush justice department never did anything about it. in florida there are types that have been caught and pending prosecu
. >> since 2008 at least 15 states have passed tighter id laws. turns out that one case of voter fraud is being investigated. it is fraud by and for the republican party tonight. they had to fire a consulting firm it paid millions of dollars to after seficials flagged forms as fraudulent. local prosecutors are investigating the matter and say the cases could be turned over to the california department. alleged fraud is the work of just a few bad apples. >> you have been studying...
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state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.
state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank...
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law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of yesterday afternoon on the phone line that the state was telling people to call if they had any questions or if they were at all confused about voting this year. so say anybody who doesn't have a driver's license and was calling the state to find out if they can vote, as of yesterday, that recording on the state's phone line for voting help was telling them, no, you can't vote, when, in fact, legally you can. ultimately when we question the state elections office about that yesterday afternoon they took down that recording. they said it was just an oversi
law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of...
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law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready for their first face-off tomorrow night in colorado. doing the hefty lifting on the number two on the ticket and the candidates' wives. mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity f
law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready...
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it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at educating voters about the photo i.d. requirements because of course there is no longer an i.d. requirement. but you know what? even before you get to taking down your ad campaign as you meander around with that task pennsylvania you might also want to consider this. the bureau of elections for cumberland county in pennsylvania as of today hopefully informing its visitors that, quote, all voters will be required to show photo i.d. at the polling place in the november, 2012, general election. actually voters will not be required to show pho
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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through federal courts with judges appointed by republican and democratic presidents knocking these laws down, clearing away these obstacles, we've not been taking that for granted. we made sure we get the people the information they need to clear those obstacles away themselves and make sure they can get what they need to bring to the polls and also what they need to get registered to vote. >> all right. there's been a lot of conversation, congresswoman, about polls and who's ahead. we can't find a poll where mitt romney is ahead. in fact, i made the comment, i would like to be in mitt romney's office because i'd like to see their game plan on how they expect to get there, if you know what i mean. what is their roadmap to victory? ohio is crucial. and the early -- and the get out to vote, obviously what we just talked about, is crucial. does it have to be bigger than 2008 for president obama to win? >> well, you know, i don't want to be -- you don't want to put too much stock in polls 40 days out, whether we're up, whether we're down, we're concentrating on that ground game. you mention
through federal courts with judges appointed by republican and democratic presidents knocking these laws down, clearing away these obstacles, we've not been taking that for granted. we made sure we get the people the information they need to clear those obstacles away themselves and make sure they can get what they need to bring to the polls and also what they need to get registered to vote. >> all right. there's been a lot of conversation, congresswoman, about polls and who's ahead. we...
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law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their time and money? >> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks
law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s...
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but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking to the middle class. that's the math. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in edu
but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt...
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that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an in core ect message to the voters right now. >> can you change that do you think? >> yes. for something like that. it is important to call us and
that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an in core ect message to the voters right now. >> can you...
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those popular deductions will remain in the law. and what will happen is that we'll cut government services and they've already said what they want to cut. big bird is a little tiny part of it. >> yeah. >> they want to gut medicare, they want to gut social security. they want to increase military spending way beyond what the pentagon wants when we're shutting down these two wars. >> all right. i want to play this. here's what romney said regarding deductions of outsourcing. here it is. >> as you said, you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant. >> what's he lying about here? >> there are a whole varieties of subsidies that go to companies that move overseas. there's a report out momentarily, or recently, about $168 million. that's a small part of it. one of the fundamental rules here is that american corporations are allowed to build up untaxed profits offshore. american companies are sitting on $6 trillion
those popular deductions will remain in the law. and what will happen is that we'll cut government services and they've already said what they want to cut. big bird is a little tiny part of it. >> yeah. >> they want to gut medicare, they want to gut social security. they want to increase military spending way beyond what the pentagon wants when we're shutting down these two wars. >> all right. i want to play this. here's what romney said regarding deductions of outsourcing....
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i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going to get this economy jump-started. we're going to open markets in trade in central and south america where we have real opportunities. but on the tax reform, i think it is important that he is pretty bold in his specifics in saying he is going to limit upper income people's ability to get all the deductions. but he is not going to do it on the middle class. i think he has been specific and i think that's just been kind of glossed over. >> let me fill in some blanks here. he has said he is going to get rid of the estate tax though and he has said that he is not going to raise the rate on nonincome from -- o
i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going...
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but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass restrictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully passed restrictive votesing laws since president obama won the white house. republicans in ohio tried to squash early voting. the gop tried to purge the voter roles in florida. the republicans have claimed all along they are trying to stop voter fraud. but look what happens. it turns out they are the ones who were cheating. a get out the vote scandal is rocking the republican party. strategic allied consulting was hired to help register voters. now they are firing th
but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass...
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secretary clinton, to her credit, has immediately initiated what already exists under the law, a formal inquiry with one of our most respected independent diplomatic figures, ambassador tom pickering, former undersecretary. he is heading this up and they will get the answers. i'm absolutely confident about that. what the republicans ought to be doing is not turning the tragedy of chris stevens' death -- this means something to us. chris stevens worked on our committee. he worked for dick lugar. he was a pearson fellow. he was a terrific ambassador representing our country. he cared about libya. he was committed to libya. and what are the republicans doing? all they can do is see the politics in this. they can't see how are we going to make sure that libya continues down the road to democracy and that those 30,000 libyans who stormed the militia headquarters and stole the weapons, are backed up over the next days in efforts that will help them make libya the libya we all want it to be. that's the question here. but all the republicans can do or see is politics. >> speaking of -- >> all t
secretary clinton, to her credit, has immediately initiated what already exists under the law, a formal inquiry with one of our most respected independent diplomatic figures, ambassador tom pickering, former undersecretary. he is heading this up and they will get the answers. i'm absolutely confident about that. what the republicans ought to be doing is not turning the tragedy of chris stevens' death -- this means something to us. chris stevens worked on our committee. he worked for dick lugar....
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they have pushed for parental trigger laws signed in seven streets. we know that rupert murdoch's media empire is in education. they talk about the teachers driven by their own financial interests. they don't say much about the motives of those on the other side of the battle. >>> we know another neat tax avoid dance trick. a loophole referred to in the tax accounting industry as i dig it. i am not making that up. it allows the practitioners to pass assets to children and grandchildren without paying the gift tax. the trust set up for his children and grandchildren made an investment in an internet advertising return that reaped 1,000% return. we know that they have opposed abolishing such trusts used by wealthy as vehicles for tax avo avo avoidance. one consistent theme seems to be a staed fast single minded focus on making sure he doesn't pay much in taxes >>> the u.s. troop surge in afghanistan failed because the nato in afghanistan produced a report that writes according to the report, before the surge, insurgents used nearly 600 homemade bombs ag
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law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more romn senior adviser ed gillese sa they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's date and is prepared to an it and address it. we believe the voters willee and appreciate the facat overnor romney'salking about uld improvthe ity ericans. joining me tonight is msnbc political analysrichd wolffe and host of "now with alex wagn",lex wagner. congratulations on your show. it's realltaken off. >> thank you, ed. >> there's dage here. mee polls owt. you can almost feel it. richard, how does heeverse the damage tomorrow night? >> if he'srte the debate as a c reintroduce himselto the american people. he blew that
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laws has been a hot topic, so obviously it addresses that. sarah silverman, not a megastar, but somebody who does sort of get that youth interest. why do you think that ad was so popular? >> people love sarah, and if you saw the whole ad, it was something you wouldn't play on tv. >> exactly. that's the part we could play. >> it was a lot saltier than tv would allow us. she's been political along the way. she tried to get old jewish people to vote in florida the last election, and she's had a very funny, very clear voice. she says a lot of things pore people just won't say. >> howard bragman, always love having you here. i see you tomorrow at the big wedding. >> we'll dance. >> thank you so much. indeed. >>> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is getting high-powered attention after all. last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly t
laws has been a hot topic, so obviously it addresses that. sarah silverman, not a megastar, but somebody who does sort of get that youth interest. why do you think that ad was so popular? >> people love sarah, and if you saw the whole ad, it was something you wouldn't play on tv. >> exactly. that's the part we could play. >> it was a lot saltier than tv would allow us. she's been political along the way. she tried to get old jewish people to vote in florida the last election,...
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virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be important for the presidential race in virginia. this week the attorney general certified a new set of regulations targeted only at abortion clinics in the united states. the rules are just targeting abortion providers. it red tape specifically designed is to make it economically impossible to operate an abortion clinic in virginia. that's what's expected to happen in the state. most clinics are in danger of being closed once the rules go into effect. they initially voted to exempt existing clinics from the red tape. and now these new rules are
virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be...
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the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the state's going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote actually because, again, we have laws in place that would not permit them to vote. >> but they're showing up on registration lists and where they end up going. >> what would happen is actually this is a fact that, you know, technology allows for them to be knocked out, and that kind of fraud is not going to happen. but we have a problem with people trying to conjure up people that they want to vote republican, and important is this particular company had allegations before in 2004 about registering people and throwing away democratic registration forms. >> i want to get to you about the role of the rnc. no
the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the state's going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote...
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law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisement arising out of this new law. pennsylvania in march passed this new law requiring voter i.d.s. people started going to get them and the state said, w
law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are...
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law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the republican party was shocked, perhaps it shouldn't have been. the firm is owned by a gop operative named nathan stroul sproul whose voter activities were investigated by the justice department though no charges filed. in a sign of people who want to legitimately exercise their right to vote, voters in ohio slept on the street overnight to be the first to cast their ballots when early voting began this morning in that state. joining us now is the host of politics nation, here on msnbc, the one, the only, reverend al sharpton. great to see you. >> glad to be here. >> let's talk about the pennsylvania
law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the...
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romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting the costs down for people rather than raising it with the $2,500 additional premium. >> the irony is we have seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to bring down costs as opposed to leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> mr. romney was the most aggressive of the two and did not mind interrupting the moderator. >> jim, th
romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting...
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now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate debate tonight between scott brown and elizabeth warren. let's listen to that. >> who's your model supreme court justice? >> let me see here. that's a great question. i think justice scalia is a very good judge. justice kennedy. the i think they're very qualified people there. >> >> miss warren who would be your model supreme court justice. >> i think it would probably be elena kagan. >> jeff toobin, it seemed elizabeth warren got that right the first time. we saw scott brown move from left to right. >> it looked like he was sort of randomly picking names out of the sky. the justices who had absolutely nothin
now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate...
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your favorite wednesday night shows like modern family, x factor and something called law and order are all preempted but you will take sports over a night of politics, right? who would want to watch two out of touch politicians answer questions when the tigers are playing the royals in ksansas city. you probably think the debates are really boring or you decided who you are voting for in may like normal people. what you need is a twitter buddy. what's a twitter buddy? it's a debate ambassador of sorts and it will save your life. pick a few. watching a live debate while following your favorite twitter personalities will make a wonky and depressing live puppet show super fun. good debate twitter buddies fit the following criteria. they let you know when to drink because that's important. and you need a list of words so you know when to do that. twel out word for word debate one-liners they deem important in case you can't tell. for you old folks this is like delayed closed captioning, helpful. post snarky insider sounding comments you won't understand like i bet henrik liked that one, or
your favorite wednesday night shows like modern family, x factor and something called law and order are all preempted but you will take sports over a night of politics, right? who would want to watch two out of touch politicians answer questions when the tigers are playing the royals in ksansas city. you probably think the debates are really boring or you decided who you are voting for in may like normal people. what you need is a twitter buddy. what's a twitter buddy? it's a debate ambassador...
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law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it's probably best to see the swing state polls that come out monday, tuesday, wednesday. at that point we'll have a good idea after people have digested the debate as well as these job number, but alex, i think you pointed to it very well. the obama campaign got a very big gift from the job number, just to be able to turn the subject from wednesday night's tough debate into something that was seen as a positive, that the unemployment rate went below 8% and just change the story. allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remain
law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still...
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i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal funds for universal coverage. here's what he's doing. >> i would like to take the medicaid dallas dollars and go to state and say you'll get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1% and you manage your care for your poor in the way you think best. >> that sounds nice. it's a cut to medicaid of more than $600 billion. that means medicaid will not be able to offer other states the generous deal massachusetts got. so then let's go through these three pots of money. romney isn't giving states a pot of money, he's cutting medicaid funding so unlike massachusetts, state
i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal...
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appeals from the obama administration and several voting rights group saying it violates a federal law of removing voters 90 days from a letter. it was compiled using a homeland security citizenship database that originally contained more than 2,000 names but had hundreds of inaccuracies. the florida secretary of state praised the ruling but groups on posing the purge say it could prevent legitimate votes from being cast. there's one more jobs report left before the election. how could it rock the presidential race? zachary will crunch numbers for you. check out our "news nation" tumblr page. you'll find behind the scene pictures. in honor of the funky meters being nominated to the rock 'n roll hall of fame, here's my producer's song she picked for this friday he. ♪ [ male announcer ] one in six. that's how many struggle with hunger in america. ♪ but what if there was a simple way to feed those in need? now, there is. shop walmart for select brands' low prices through october 12th and you help secure meals for local families. go to walmart.com/hunger and learn more about how you ca
appeals from the obama administration and several voting rights group saying it violates a federal law of removing voters 90 days from a letter. it was compiled using a homeland security citizenship database that originally contained more than 2,000 names but had hundreds of inaccuracies. the florida secretary of state praised the ruling but groups on posing the purge say it could prevent legitimate votes from being cast. there's one more jobs report left before the election. how could it rock...
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i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear if you gave john mccain a dozen or more tax returns in order to be vetted for him, why wouldn't you give us those tax returns to vet you for the possible presidency. that's what i think the audience could follow. >> absolutely. i think that's what a lot of people are thinking. what is the big deal? why not just show us? and i also think it's a bit of malpractice the way his team has miscalculated how this story would play out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strate
i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear...
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>> that's against the law. any type of nonprofit voter registration, you have to register everybody. i used to do that in my younger years. i would go out with my forms and said would you like to register. you don't know whether they will register democratic, republican, independent or any other party. you register them. you are told it's against the law. we need enforcement. i hope people understand who you watching this perhaps that if you are trying to intimidate a voter, that's against the law. that's unpatriotic. you need to stop because you can't do it. i want to mention more thing. in 24 states, ed, on e dekz day at the polls, do you know that 24 states allow a voter to be challenged on election day for no reason. they just walk up. >> just to disenfranchise people? >> i believe that person has no right to vote. if the person doesn't have two forms of id or doesn't know the election officer, they are not going to be able to vote that day. maybe they can cast a provisional ballot. >> i appreciate you bein
>> that's against the law. any type of nonprofit voter registration, you have to register everybody. i used to do that in my younger years. i would go out with my forms and said would you like to register. you don't know whether they will register democratic, republican, independent or any other party. you register them. you are told it's against the law. we need enforcement. i hope people understand who you watching this perhaps that if you are trying to intimidate a voter, that's...
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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the health care law is gaining ground. and they were demobilized, the democrats last time. they are not demobilized this time. >> they were strutting around, the tea partyiers in their outfits and rallies. where is the big strut? you couldn't go to warning tshi without seeing them. i haven't seen any of the tea party rallies. what happened? >> the last rally they tried to have was dramatically reduced in size. what happened, again, is we started to hear and see these stories that there were tea party people disappointed with the results that they were getting out of washington and, again, i think that people bought into the rhetoric. shame on democrats. we did not do a great job in 2010. so they strutted in and m misinterpreted what the election was about. here's the thing, voters also learned from, thanks to the tea party, you better have the details. talk about the deficit and tell me the details. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you, karen. thank you, e.j. dionne. both of you have a great weekend. thank you for your time. >> you, too. >> we'll be right back.
the health care law is gaining ground. and they were demobilized, the democrats last time. they are not demobilized this time. >> they were strutting around, the tea partyiers in their outfits and rallies. where is the big strut? you couldn't go to warning tshi without seeing them. i haven't seen any of the tea party rallies. what happened? >> the last rally they tried to have was dramatically reduced in size. what happened, again, is we started to hear and see these stories that...
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the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney supreme court would look like. here's what he said back in december during the primary debates. >> yes, roberts, thomas, alito, and scalia. >> those are four justices that are the most conservative on the bench. they all ruled against abortion rights, against equal pay, and for unlimited political donation for corporations. yes, this is not about who likes the president or not. sure he's likeable. this is not about all of the side bar issues. this is about what we fundamentally stand
the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney...
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and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it added to this lack of energy. remember, this is a year when most people watching debates on television or getting their news are used to the kind of roar of the crowd. they used to tweet, they are used to crowd engagement. to have two people quiet ligating on the stage in a professorial way is quite alien for most american people today. >> there's that same perception that it is reality, even liberal pundits were critical of the president. a lot of the post and headlines today will say mitt romney won this debate. they are both going out on the road today, they are back in campaign mode, there's another vice presidential debate before they go head-to-hea
and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it added to this lack of energy. remember, this is a...
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i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there and doing the typical -- >> why does it seem like the right thing to do? >> well, it seems like the right thing to do for you, chris, but what is the fair share? what is the fair number that a warren buffett or a mitt romney or myself should pay? that's going to be at one end of the debate? but how do we get others in our economy who want to be taxpayers, who want to be taxpayers, those who lost their jobs under this administration, want to be back under the administration and pay their fair share, so let's get them the jobs to do that. >> i'm not sure that was a clear response. >> it was clear. it worked for me.
i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there...
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>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afg
>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that...